What Do You Think? - Midland,MI

Updated on October 25, 2010
L.B. asks from Midland, MI
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My boyfriend's ex just found out she is pregnant...with her boyfriend of 3 months. I'm not judging based on that...my boyfriend (of 2 years) and I are just really concerned about their daughter. A little history: I was friends with his ex all through school, 4th grade through 12th grade. She has never been faithful in any relationship and the pregnant by the 3 month anniversary is kind of a recurring thing with her. Her last two boyfriends she "accidently" (she admitted to me she tricked my boyfriend back when we were still friends and before he was my boyfriend) got pregnant with...she lost the baby with the first boyfriend. With my boyfriend, she kept telling him she was on the pill when she wasn't.
My boyfriend just won his custody case to get 50/50 about 6 months ago, but he is considering going back and trying for full custody. He (or me for that matter) doesn't think the environment of her mother's house is appropriate for a three year old child. She actually hasn't even mentioned she has a boyfriend to us, the only reason we know she has a boyfriend or is pregnant is Facebook. We don't want the kiddo growing up thinking that having relationships like that and continuously getting pregnant that soon into relationships is okay. What would you do in this situation? Would you think that environment is okay for a child? Even if you think we are wrong in thinking this, I want to know!

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Okay...maybe I need to tell a little more...there are some super judgmental people out there! My boyfriend and I have been together for almost 2 years...they broke up while she was pregnant because she told him she cheated on him, and the baby might not be his. He continued to let her live with him until the baby was born so she wouldn't be homeless and pregnant. After the baby was born, she found a place to live on her own. Just before the baby turned 2, her ex (my boyfriend) and I decided to get together...I didn't move in with him until January of this year...so it's almost been a year. From the conversations we’ve had, she is now okay with me dating him since we are no longer friends. My cousin had been his primary babysitter, and I spent a lot of time (about 5 hours a day) at my cousin's house, so I've known the baby very well since day one. After I moved in, she kept saying I took him from her (we didn't start dating until well after they broke up and I hadn't been friends with her even longer) and refused to let him see the baby. He said he would be damned if he would let her make him choose between his daughter and his girlfriend. That's when he hired a lawyer and took her to court to get 50/50 custody so she couldn't do that anymore. We know she is talking bad about us to the baby (I guess she's not really a baby anymore...lol)...she has come over to our house and said, out of the blue "mama said I don't belong here, and I belong at her house” when she said that, we said “No honey, you belong at both our houses, we all love you very much". We do believe she is best with both her parents, but given her mom’s behavior, we are torn. The other problem we have is whenever it is her mother's time with her, the baby is either at her uncle's house, her aunt's house, or her grandmother's house...I understand that she has the right to say where her child is when it is her parenting time, but when she has lived somewhere for over a year and my boyfriend has only been there a handful of times picking up/dropping off his daughter...it just doesn't seem right…we’re afraid she is acting up at our house because she doesn’t get enough of the mother/daughter time as it is…so in a situation where he has full custody, she would actually have a more stable home environment. He has tried bringing it up with her a couple of times, but she bit his head off both times saying it’s his fault the baby is acting up. He actually took a toy away from his daughter once because she was hitting with it, and when her mom found out, she immediately blew up at me (I didn’t take the toy away, my boyfriend did) telling me that “She hates you…just ask her!”. I know for a fact that the baby doesn’t hate me…she tells me all the time that she loves me! Her mother also has a history of Bipolar disorder and Depression and before she didn’t like to take her medication, I don’t know how she is like with medication now. My boyfriend and I actually have no plans to get married…we don’t need a ring or a piece of paper to let us know how much we love each other. I have no problem with premarital sex; I just think it’s wrong of people to get pregnant just to trap someone in a relationship, and knowing her history (since she’s done the same thing twice before in the same time frame) there’s a good chance she’s doing that now. I am not “checking up” on her on Facebook…she sent me a friend request and I accepted so we can see the pictures she has and she can see the pictures we have…her posting statuses about being pregnant is NOT me checking up on her. I joined mamapedia to get some advise since we don't want our parent's biased opinions, and he wouldn't join since he "is the daddy and the title of the site is "mamapedia". I didn’t realize I would get such rude responses!

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L.L.

answers from Los Angeles on

"We don't want the kiddo growing up thinking that having relationships like that and continuously getting pregnant that soon into relationships is okay."

If this is the only reason that you don't want the child living w/ the mother 1/2 time, that's just not feasible or justified. My girlfriend loves junk food, it's not healthy and her kids see her eating it and they may pick up the habit from her, but it's no reason for the kids to live w/out their mother, right? Food for thought.

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S.W.

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It doesn't matter what we think, or what you or your boyfriend think - the family court system makes decisions about custody. The family court system thinks it's best for a child to have both parents involved in their life unless one parent is deemed "unfit" to parent. A mother would have to do much worse than get pregnant "too soon" in a relationship for the court to take custody away. A child's best interests are served when both parents are actively involved. A 50/50 custody arrangement is what the court prefers.

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D.P.

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What would you do in this situation? Nothing. You're her father's girlfriend. NOt his wife. Are you living together? What kind of message is that sending? Just trying to give some additional food for thought here. This child could probably benefit from SOMEONE with a stable permanent relationship!
Would you think that environment is okay for a child? Not ideal, but that's the drill. Anyone can have a baby for any reason they want.
It's very sad.

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K.E.

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I agree it is not the ideal environment; however, this is not abusive unless they are doing the duty infront of her and stuff like that. She is going to see flakes like this in her life, the best thing to do is talk about it, and talk about it and talk about it. Try to head off the issue before the teen years.

AGAIN I agree with your feelings, but the action you are thinking is just as damaging.

Good luck.

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J.P.

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I don't think that the courts are going to give you full custody just because the mom got pregnant. I think you should just sit back, because pretty soon, she is going to be tired from growing a little baby, and then having a new baby in the house, and she may just ask you guys to take her more often. Best case scenario is you guys can all learn to get along, and be friends, and try to "help her out" by taking the girl more often and just pose it in a way that I know you are so tired, and need your energy for the baby right now or whatever......that is what I would do.....telling her what a horrible mother she is, or trying to take more custody rights away from her I dont' think will help.....

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J.P.

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I have only read like 3 responses, but WOW!!! You seem to have hit a nerve with the rude responses. I do think that it is up to the father, as since you aren't married, there isn't much you can do. He should talk to his lawyer and see if there is any basis to change the custody agreement. Don't take all the judgmentalness to heart. There really are nice people on here.

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T.F.

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Sometimes getting pregnant right off the get-go with a boyfriend happens all of the time. Whether that's wrong or right - well to each is own. I agree with your concern about the 3 year though - as a parent you are instilling your values and morals into your child - you want to provide the best you can for your child. It's harder when you have parents that are split and have other relations with other people and then the child becomes unstable and confused at times of what is right or wrong....or who's who.

I personally believe that a husband and wife ever split and go back to dating that the children do not meet the person that they are dating for a long time. Because of the attachment issues that a child can have. I can go on and on, but I think you can get an idea of what I'm saying.

I don't know how long you guys have been together for, but your boyfriend if he wants to take the reigns and get full custody of his child - by golly go for it. Especially if he can provide the better environment for his child. You as the girlfriend though have to watch your boundaries with her because you are not the "mom" - even though you seem to have a better head on your shoulders than her real mom. But there is that fine line. I'm sure you are aware of it. Good luck hun - whatever is meant to be will be - and hopefully the little girl will have a good stable life with great morals and values.

M.D.

answers from Washington DC on

I wouldn't be thrilled by this, but it is what it is. Courts don't like to take custody away from a parent (especially a mom) unless there are some major problems. The child is only 3, so I doubt she is learning that it is "ok" to do what her mom is doing right now, and it really means that you and your boyfriend need to work that much harder to show her what is right. Which in turn I think can strain your relationship. You and he have a responsibility to work out whatever issues may come your way since you are in her life as well. Tough times I know and I'd feel the same as you do, but I just don't think it's in the best interest of the child to take her from her mother. But we must not know the whole story if you guys are seriously considering trying to obtain full custody. Hugs to you, because I know this is a challenge!!

Oh! And I started dating my husband in July 2002, ended up pregnant in September 2002. Not planned obviously, but it is what it is. We now have 3 amazing children and have been married for 6 years. Tough times? Sure, but so does everyone. So maybe she is going to settle down now?

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