D.G.
Hi ...in my opinion...and this is strictly an opinion...but if he has got it goin on enuff to tell you to "leave him alone"...then you and your husband and the childcare provider...should find a source of discipline when he does mess in his pants....'specially if he is doin it after you ask him....just an opinion...because in my dealings with children...he is just bein lazy....do you want an 8 yr old poopin in the resturant when the family is tryin to eat dinner....I dont think so ....I lived this nightmare with my stepson...his biological parents dint do anything about it they just babied him and cleaned him up ...and expected me to do the same....O NO SISTA....NOT HAPPENING....so I kept on him and rewarded him when he did go to the bathroom on the toilet ...he is also the same kid i referred to in an earlier response...that wet himself during his ballgame...in front of everyone ....he wouldnt even stop playin to go potty ...and then when i would discover it ...i would ask him about it and he said I dont know ...or I was too busy..and get mad at me ...well I was angry with him he was old enuff to do other things and stop for drinks but not old enuff to stop to potty ....WHATEVER...so yes sumtimes...playin hardball with the child ....WORKS....you know what he is 17 now...and thanks me for bein that way with him ....he remembers back when he was 5...and so will your son...KIDS are CRUEL...and if they get wind of him messin in his pants.....it will be tough to bear for him and the teasing....KEEP TRYING....get strategic....and STERN....and be rewarding....obviously to him it is not such a big deal...