Serious Question for Florida Residents (Especially Tampa Residents)
Updated on
June 01, 2013
M.G.
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Flower Mound, TX
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Hi Moms,
I am very frightened about something, and I need to ask this question again, but this post is more specific and detailed than my previous one. I thank you in advance to those who read this and take this seriously. So, everyone has fears, I'm sure, such as: tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunami's/earthquakes, etc. While those fears I just listed are also fears of mine, my biggest fear is sinkholes.
Our family has a wonderful opportunity to move to the Tampa area, but all that I can think of regarding Tampa is that poor man in Seffler who got swallowed by a sinkhole in February. I did a ton of research about sinkholes in general, and learned a lot. I learned that sinkholes exist in many places around the world, as well as several states in the U.S. I also learned that the state most susceptible to sinkholes is Florida - particularily Tampa.
I learned that all of Florida sits atop karst terrain/soluable rock/limestone, and when it rains, the water goes into the soil, and below the earth's surface. When that happens, the rain comes in contact with debris and instantly becomes contamminated/acidic. The acidic water then eats away at the limestone. When there is no more limestone left to support the ground above, caves, caverns, or large spaces (all known as sinkholes) develop, causing the ground above to collapse.
I learned that sinkholes can be small (only a couple feet in length and depth), or extremely large (swallowing roads, houses, buildings, acres...).
I have two reasons for this post: 1) I am making another attempt to see if anything anyone has to say can possibly ease my fear of sinkholes. 2) I need statistics. I already researched geological surveys in Florida, and I already know that the surveys show a lot of sinkhole activity in Florida/Tampa. Common sense tells me that there is only so much limestone that lies under Florida, so once all of the acidic rain water eats away at the limestone, there will be no more limestone left, resulting in nothing left to support Florida's ground. I would like to know how much limestone there really is that lies beneath Florida/Tampa. Are there miles and miles and miles of limestone that would take 500 years for the acidic water to completely eat all of it? Or are there only a few miles of limestone that would only take 50, 25, or 10 years for the acidic water to eat it all away?
What I really need, is to speak to a Florida geologist. Does anyone know how I would go about doing that, or if that is even possible? I need to know that the ground beneath my house, my childrens' schools, the road I'm driving on, etc. will be able to support all of that. I learned that some sinkholes develop slowly over a long period of time and there will be sigs, like a crack in the foundation or settlement in the backyard. However, I also learned that some sinkholes happen abruptly with no signs and no warning, such as what happened to that poor man in Seffler. Imagine going to bed one night, never waking up in the morning because the ground beneath you caved in b/c there was no more limestone left to support the ground above, getting swallowed by a huge sinkhole. I believe this poor man's death was the only recorded death related to a sinkhole, but I am wondering if this is going to be trend, and if we will soon start to see other tragic stories like this in the news.
I know that natural disasters happen almost anywhere, but as I said, sinkholes are my biggest fear over anything else. I need to know that the ground below me is stable, and will not collapse, especially with no notice. So, my biggest question is for a geologist, wondering how many years Florida has left before all of the limestone disappears, resulting in catastrophic sinkholes.
One more thing - I would also like to know how often you get sinkholes or notice cracks in your foundation, resulting in submitting claim forms to your insurance companies. I would also like to know if your insurance companies dismiss your claims, or if they take them seriously and actually repair the cracks or sinkholes. I read that about 25,000 sinkhole claim forms in Florida are submitted every single year.
Again, any supportive comments and/or knowledge of sinkholes and sinkhole statistics are greatly appreciated. Thank you.
I live in the Tampa Bay Area (one of the St. Pete beaches across the bridge). We originally moved here in 1999, left for 1 1/2 years but returned last summer. I've never thought once about a sinkhole and I don't know anyone here who thinks about them either. I can honestly say the subject has never come up in conversation and I was impressed with your research. I doubt us locals could reassure you because we don't seem to share your fear and you know more about them than us, I suspect. Perhaps reach out to the Geology department at USF. USF's main campus is right in the middle of Tampa. Good luck.
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A.S.
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You better stay in Texas. :)
ETA: Just kidding . . . I've been here 12 years and never heard of a sinkhole until that unfortunate event with the guy in the Tampa area. Never had a foundation crack, nothing, and I live right on the water. Been through 3 major hurricanes - never lost a roof tile (did lose some landscaping).
Just my $.02
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J.P.
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Sorry that I don’t have any info for you but I do live about an hour from Tampa. I am within the orange groves and cattle ranches and have never experienced a sink hole. What I do know is that most are small and rarely does the ground just give out beneath you.
Think about it, people have been living here in Florida for hundreds of years. You do know that the Spanish were the first to discover this new world. (Look at the history in St Augustine). Also sink holes happen everywhere, have you also checked to see how many sink holes there have been in TX?
I understand having fears, I would never live in California (earthquakes). I know they are usually small but that is not something I want to experience. Can you plan a trip out to visit? Maybe if you can come and see for yourself that there is nothing to worry about.
I just wanted to add that Tampa is big and there are so many people that live there. Do you think they would all stay if the ground was just going out from under them? What about Disney? It's been there for over 40 years with thousands of visitors every day. Florida will not be falling off or sinking into the ocean anytime soon.
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L.V.
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I'm not far from you in Texas. I read your original question as well as this one. I have no sinkhole-related information for you, but I have to ask... do you have a problem with anxiety? The fact that you have done so much research and won't be satisfied until you speak with an expert geologist (or will you be satisfied?) tells me that your fear has gone beyond the rational. I don't mean to sound judgmental. My husband and I both deal with anxiety, and if it's not under control, it can really mess with your life and your relationships. We've never had a bad marriage, but it still got dramatically better when we decided to address our underlying anxiety. His was brought on by deployment. Mine, unfortunately, is a genetic predisposition to that sort of brain chemistry.
As for sinkholes, if you happen to be the only person who suddenly gets completely swallowed by a sinkhole under your living room one day, then it was your time to go. There is absolutely nothing you can do about it. We live in tornado alley. It sucks, but you do what you can to prepare and try not to worry about it the rest of the time.
Good luck! I hope you get the answers you're looking for! :-)
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T.R.
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I am not a geologist & don't know the technical information you are seeking, but my first thought is to contact a Geological Sciences department at the university.
Here is a link to a page of Geology schools across the country. You could contact someone in Florida, or even in your own state for information.
Can you contact a USGS (US Geological Survey) office in Florida?
I think the only solution to not living on karst would be to live on a house boat? :-)
So, the sink holes have killed one person. How about the tornadoes that have been in the news recently in TX and OK?
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P.K.
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And you can get hit by a bus when you walk out your door, or get struck by lightening. Can't live your life worrying about things.
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A.D.
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Dallas
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Hi M.
I am curious, I am wondering if you are claustrophobic or have a fear of being trapped or buried alive. I know for me, living in N. Texas I would not want to be trapped in rubble from a tornado, I think I'd rather be free and have some injuries.
~A.