My Neice Tried to Hang Herself!

Updated on September 28, 2007
G.I. asks from Bayonne, NJ
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My neices (8&11) are up for adoption; their Dad (my 42 yr old bro') died last yr (in front of them & their Mom(his wife) & my Mom(their Grandma) Their Mom had a breakdown a few months later & left the kids w/my sister Gail. DFYS stepped in (technically they have custody) & allowed my sis' Gail(52 yr old single, raised one daughter of her own who is now 32)to keep them temporarily. It seems that DFYS may now support the adoption go thru for Gail simply bcause "she's had them" these past months.. while most of us want them to go w/my Christian sister & her husband, married over 15 yrs & currently raising children of their own, they live out of state & therefore weren't permitted to take them initially. In recent months my sis' Gail (has the girls) has been eliminating people from their little lives... people like myself, their uncle, etc. mainly people who've been there for them & who they adore. She's afraid we'll back my out-of-town sister -- meanwhile I've been pleading w/her to not hurt the kids this way-- she's apparently too desperate & scared to take a chance to let me see them for fear they'll "tell" me something. It's very strange &I'm worried about them. DFYS suggested I turn her in to THEIR organization.. a different dept.. but at the same time they warned if we did, the kids could be removed & placed w/a stranger. I'm starting to think this is yet another scare tactic by DFYS to "back" my sister. Meanwhile 3-mos into my sis' Gail stopping us from visiting the girls, the 11 yr old tried to HANG HERSELF in the yard! which my sister is making light of . said she did it "for attention" & seemed to have convinced DFYS it was "no big deal" either. REcently I read an article on how prevelant this HANGING method is among girls ages 10-14 (I think?) And I'm afraid. Has anyone had experience w/HANGING or SUICIDE OR with DFYS & adoption? PS the day after my neice tried to hang herself my Mom unexpectedly (Dr. error) died & my sis' didn't allow them (tho they TOLD me they wanted to) to attend the funeral. The girls told me "A.Gail said if she had HER way we wouldn't have gone to my Dads funeral either".
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L.S.

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WOW! I am so sorry to read this! I work in the psychiatric field so I work with a lot of clients who are depressed, suicidal, as well as other issues. I am pleading with you as a mother myself and as a psychologist to PLEASE get this little girl out of there! So often kids suicidal gestures, or in this case attempts, are taken too lightly. They are often seen as attention seeking and as if the "didn't mean it!" That is not a minor gesture at all! It should not be taken lightly nor should it be ignored. My advice is to call DYFUS and get her out of there! I have family issues myself that led to me not speaking to family members in order to keep them safe....its the best thing I ever did! Best of luck to you and remember...always follow your gut instinct! It's never wrong!

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G.M.

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G., I don't know anything about DFYS or Adoptions. What I do know is losing aloved one is devastating! My mom died of a heart attack when I was eleven, it was the hardest thing for me at that age, I can relate to your nieces lost. This is so sad as I write you I can't help but cry.Oh my what pain these girls are going through, they need help real soon. Its nice of you to be so concern about them. When my mom died she had six sisters and none of them offered to take us in or showed any care for us, I know God helped us through until we are parents now. You may not want to take this advice but besides seeking help in other ways go to the CBN/700 club prayer line or call there phone (800)759-0700 and a pray counselor would pray with you on behalf of this situation. You too need strength and guidance in this matter. I will be praying for them.
G..

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A.K.

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Oh my, this story you tell is sickening, as well as very, very sad !! You need to step it up and protect this little girl! She'll thank you for it later in life! No CHILD wants to or should feel like they need to end their life! Get her the help she needs NOW. Good luck and please keep us all posted. Also I am very sorry to hear of the loss of your brother AND your mother. :(

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L.V.

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Hi...You sound like you really care for the girls. Do not let DYFUS scare you. The girls would probably be better off with a stranger temporarily than with this woman. She is not normal...she should not be keeping these kids away from the people who love them. I would get your family to rally and fight for these kids. Go to family court, have them removed. Remember most courts will talk to the girls privately and ask them what is going on......a young girl trying to kill herself is so not normal. Your out of town sister should be banning with you and helping you fight the system. DO not let your other sister gain custody...if all you said is true, then fight for the girls and get them help. I fear what their lives will be like when they grow up and have kids of their own....God Bless them all and Good Luck.

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R.L.

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Im sorry that it happened and that your in a sad situation. My daughter Tishay wanted to kill herself but didnt because she got counseling. But the best thing to do right now is pray for them and believe that God will work things out for you in his time. I think they should go with your christian sister or you you should do whats best for the children. God will help you just have to have faith and believe that one day things will get better for you. Never give up trying to make a better life for them. And for now all i have to say is that you have to be their support system no matter how near or far you are from them. I wish you the best. Take care

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J.F.

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I don't really have an experience with the issue you are facing, the story you tell is so dramatic, that I would like to do something to help these two, poor, poor little girls... Is there no chance their mother would get better and take them back? Why did she choose to leave her daughters with Gail? Were they close? Perhaps it was her wish? Perhaps the girls really liked her? Is it possible to ask her?
The only thing I can think about is the get the lawyer, and have him/her advise you about what DFYS really can do - it sounds pretty insane to me, that they would place them with the strangers if there is a close family who wants to take care of them. Family lawyer should be able to tell you also how best to deal with entire situation.
Good luck and again - I am very sorry for you and your family.

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S.C.

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Dear G.,

Oh my Gosh, I agree with everyone else this is a horrible story. But, unfortunetly it does happen to alot of people. First, DCF is not always right. So, Fight to have the girls removed from Gail's house immediately. Call and speak to whomever will listen to you. Call and speak to the girls teachers, and school counselor - ask them how the girls are doing and tell them if and have they seen any concerns with the girls because you found out that one of the girls tried to commit suicide. Maybe the schools can help out.. It is their job and responsibility to let DCF know about any concerns. Another thing is talk to an attorney and if you have to take out a loan to have the girls represented, removed, heard and taken care of by someone SANE then its worth every penny. Another thing is these poor girls have and are going thru soo much. Pray for them, EVERYONE reading this say a little prayer for them. They are little girls who have lost both parents. They are probably missing them and feeling very alone. GET THEM COUNSELING, YESTERDAY!!!!!!! Seek help for them like yesterday! Fight, for them. Someone has too, they are too weak and fragile to speak up themselves. And yes, they need to be surrounded by a warm, loving, nurturing individual who is going to be there for them physically and emotionally. They need to know that they are not alone in this world. Another thing is that sometimes they might be safer with a person who is not their blood relative. Please stay strong and focus on helping the girls... Keep in touch... S. C

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T.S.

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It seems to me that these children would be better off with a stranger than this wacko they are staying with. I'm sorry, but an 11 year old girl should not be thinking about dying, she should be flourishing in school, with firends, etc... I personally think that you need to take matters in your own hands now. I would get the police, the state, as many involved as necessary. I have a little girl and i can't imagine this - to tell you the truth i am sick just reading your posting. If i had all the proper info, i would call the state on her myself!

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