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I was not a fan of minivans either, but bought one last December because I wanted to carpool with someone to get my kids to school and couldn't fit another car seat in my SUV (we have a Toyota Highlander that my husband now drives, but it doesn't have a third row). So, we bought a used Toyota Sienna and I wouldn't change a thing! We got this thing fully loaded with leather, DVD, automatic doors, etc. and it really was SO affordable! Also, like others have said, the reliability and safety of the Sienna and Odessy can't be beat. Either way, I think you'll me much happier with the minivan since, as you said, the kiddos can climb in themselves. Good luck and happy shopping!