Differing Beliefs

Updated on October 31, 2011
E.M. asks from Liberty, MO
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Do you automatically consider someone is uneducated/hateful/fearful etc just because they have differing views or beliefs?

There are tons of questions posted every day. Some are general, some are about discipline, sleeping, eating, husbands, jobs. Some are vents, some are about current news. Some are political, some are religious. Some are super hot topics/button pushers for people. I think that everyone, EVERYONE, should be allowed to answer any and every question they want. I think that there are a very few that are posted to purposely start a fight but mostly people just want to talk/discuss/get their opinion out. Why do some people think that others are hateful, undeducated or fearful because they have a different idea on something? If they have different viewpoints/morals/beliefs/ideals etc? Why are some accused of being "close minded" because they dont agree with certain things? and this goes for a broad area of topics, not just the so called "hot topics" because i've seen this in threads to seemingly mundane questions. I am not trying to start a fight, believe it or not, I am not trying to rock the boat or get anyone's panties in a bunch. I am hopeful, that as grown mature adults, we can discuss this with no name calling, no bashing etc.

I think that the days of reporting a response just because you dont like it or dont agree with it needs to stop. I do not report posts unless they are either solicitation questions or the person is threatening the poster. which means rarely. I think that every person, no matter what political side you fall on, no matter what side of whatever debate you fall on, should be allowed to answer and post as wanted. As long as the person isnt threatening a person or group with violence or spitefully singling someone/some group out to be hateful then we should just let the people be. answer if you want, dont answer if you dont want to. disagree if you want, voice your opinion, state your ideals without wondering if it will get pulled. I will read some threads where everyone answering is in agreement with the posted on a "hot topic" and will read some of the answers bashing people who's answers are gone. I find it hard to believe that all the people accused of speaking hatefully were really trying to be as evil as depicted. I know this is a long vent. But really, it's like "Big Brother Is Watching" on here sometimes. not the tv show, more like the play...you get the gist I suppose.

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thank you all for the answers so far!
this is not in reference to any specific question. regardless of how it seems, this really is a general question that goes for not just me.
and again, thanks for all of the responses

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A.S.

answers from Boca Raton on

I *think* I agree with you. I enjoy reading almost any and all posts . . . even ones I don't agree with.

The only post I ever reported was one that I thought was intentionally describing - in inappropriately GREAT detail - child molestation. We didn't need to read that to get the gist of what was going on and I didn't appreciate it (thought it was a troll post).

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J.C.

answers from San Francisco on

I completely agree with you, and thank you for posting this. I had a answer pulled today (re: anchor baby post) because someone disagreed with my opinion, thought I was "whining" and it made her feel sick to her stomach. Oh, poor thing. (My gosh, if something makes one feel this way so easily, I hope you don't read the newspaper or watch the news.) Since when is this a reason to report. I did not name call, was not rude or vulgar or threatening. I was simply stating I've had to experience difficulties, that she probably hasn't had to experience, at the expense of illegals, and I'm sick of it.
By the way, no matter how much I've disliked answers that have been posted, I have never reported them. I'm able to deal with all opinions whether I agree with them or not.

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C.W.

answers from Lynchburg on

Hi 3 boys under three-

I have been on this site a LONG time...

I have had some concerns over the years about 'whole' posts just disappearing that 'seemingly' were within the guidelines.

I have periodically taken 'breaks' from here because of JUST THAT.

I have emailed mamapedia with concerns...and have always found the responses to be either automated...or of little help.

I do think some of the issue is that there are moms, here on this sight...that feel for whatever reason that 'they' are the 'watchdogs'...and feel a compelling need to hit a 'report' button.

I find this sad. I cannot presume that the moms that (in my view) over report are 'un educated/hateful/fearful'...but cannot help but suspect many may be...

I have stated several times before...

If you feel you have some insight to a posting...POST.

If you don't...gloss over it...and do not post...

IF you feel particularly VEHEMENT...write a response...let it rest a while...come back and 'tweak' it...and post...or not!

But for GOODNESS sake...LAY OFFFFFFF the report button UNLESS something is SO extreme as to cause 'you' or someone else physical harm!!

Geesh...we are adults...and this is cyber.

Just my opinion!!
TY for posting this BTW~~

michele/cat

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G.T.

answers from Redding on

Every action has a re-action. And that's all this site is. Someone "acts" (posts), then we all "re-act" to the post. Then some people re-act to the other re-actions.
Anyway, if people would stop analyzing it all to death and just perceive, there wouldnt be so much wasted time worrying about "feelings" and whose got hurt and such.

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J.W.

answers from St. Louis on

I consider anyone uneducated/hateful/fearful if they are dogmatic in their beliefs. If you will not even open your mind to the possibility that others may have a point then I have serious doubts about your mental prowess.

In the years I have been here I have reported a handful of posts. Most because they wanted me to buy something and that is against the rules. One because it was sooooo hateful I had never seen anything like it (you may find this interesting but they were attacking what most would consider the other side of my argument). Other than that I will always embrace that I am not always right.

Live Bold, I respect that but everything I read flows around and finds its place in my mind, in my beliefs. I seem confident in my beliefs only because I know everything that has impacted my life to this point plays a part in them.

Cheryl O's post reminds me of a PM I got, they explained that I was wrong and they were right. I was asked why I didn't change my answer but added to it. I didn't change it because I didn't want those that responded to it to seem a bit nuts. I have no problem with public proof I was wrong.

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D.K.

answers from Pittsburgh on

I do consider people to be uneducated based upon some beliefs. For example - climate change - the science behind this is essentially unassailable. The United States is pretty much the only country in the world that seems to disbelieve that climate change is occurring and is man made. The rest of the civilized world looks at us like idiots because people here think there is some question - not about how to fix the problem - but that there is a problem.

I also make the same judgments about people who do not understand or believe in evolution - to me it is the same thing as standing up in the year 2011 and saying 'I do not believe in gravity'.

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K.H.

answers from Richmond on

sorry, but the last time someone asked me an honest political question, they got an honest answer..that got pulled. if you dont want the answer, dont ask the question, or at least be bright enough to realize that not everyone is going to agree with you.
K. h.
where is my coffee ?oh, so this is about whether you would or should consider aborting a fetus that reportedly has a birth defect, i have a deformed arm due to an car accident, not a birth defect, and, my obgyn, dr hyde, decided to ignore these facts, and lead me to believe that i was at an increased risk on having a downs baby, because supposedly, car accidents are inherited (work with me on this one), i ignored his "advice", got the true facts and figures, and now have a healthy, if sleepy, toddler sitting in my lap.

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D.B.

answers from Charlotte on

Posts don't usually get pulled because people disagree with what is said. They get pulled because the person saying them is rude and abusive. Or talks about another poster in a way that is said just to get people to gang up on them.

I have said this a couple of times, and I'll add it to your thread. We don't need a Jerry Springer show on here. It runs off the young moms who are here for help. If people want to fight, let them go to CafeMoms.

That's my two cents! Now I'm off to my son's concert and some beautiful music! Ahhhh!!!

Dawn

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C.C.

answers from San Francisco on

I've been on Mamapedia for about 5 years, and I think I can count on one hand the number of times I have reported a post. Those times, it was only because someone was obviously trolling (name-calling, being over-the-top outrageous in order to start a fight, etc), or because someone posted a sales solicitation. I wouldn't report someone simply because they disagree with me. I may not like what people say, but I'll defend to the death their right to say it.

That being said, not all ideas are created equal. Do I privately think that certain ideas are hateful/uneducated/fearful? YEP! Might I comment that I disagree, and why? YEP! There are several mamas on this site whose opinions I disagree with 90% of the time, but I respect them as people. We are all here trying to help other moms have an easier time of it. That's the important thing to remember.

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L.S.

answers from Spokane on

I think it's the people that believe THEIR way is the ONLY way that are the ones that are fearful and uneducated.

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J.K.

answers from Kansas City on

I didn't read your whole question, just the first part. I believe a lot of people carry on the beliefs that they were brought up with. And some people never investigate to find out new things too. And some people just spout off at the mouth something that they have heard, that they think might be true. And lots and lots of people are very educated too. I guess that's what makes the world go around.

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B.L.

answers from Missoula on

I only consider someone uneducated/hateful/fearful if for every post they write about their beliefs on the topic, they can't do it nicely. Such as, you're horrible for thinking that way, or your'e a horrible person/parent. If someone can't be nice about anything they disagree with, then why are they even on this site. It's for grownups who can agree to disagree.

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L._.

answers from San Diego on

I would rather see someone that's dogmatic in what they believe, even if they are wrong. Education should settle matters. It's a strange thing to me that today we are collectively making education out to be nothing but one great big exercise in tolerance and relativism. While I know it's not possible for mankind to know everything, a large amount of the world's knowledge should be had and settled by education. Education should not raise more questions than it answers.

I don't think it's a matter of differing beliefs and opinions. I think it's that sometimes people deliver the ideas in a mean way. I've been guilty of it. You've been guilty of it. And Jo W...My over all thoughts when I see you have answered something is that you will absolutely know your mind. I don't see you as a very open minded person. I don't mean that in a bad way. I just see you as someone that believes what you say.

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J.P.

answers from Lakeland on

I don’t think I have ever reported anyone or their posts. I have seen some that in my opinion were nasty comments. I have read comments that really upset me. There has been one time that I sent someone a PM. I felt that the responses to her question were rude and one sided against what she was asking (she was looking for information).
I have had one comment to a question that I had asked get pulled (that I know of), I didn’t report it. I had left it there since it was just one persons beliefs and thoughts. I don’t ever expect anyone to agree with me, although it is nice to know that there are parents that do things similar to me.
I joined this site after trying a couple of others. One site that was mentioned in one of your responses is correct that it contains so much stupid drama. The other I left because of cyber bullying that was too close to home. To have someone in the next town make treats to me and my child was just mind blowing, all because we had different beliefs on raising our children.
I do not expect anyone to agree with how I raise my daughter and I would never push my personal views or beliefs onto anyone. I do like to talk with other parents, I never know what I might learn and I never know what I can teach someone else. I think everyone has a right to voice their thoughts and beliefs and I also think there can be a polite way of doing it. Even for those that say “I am just telling it like it is”. This phrase really annoys me. I mostly see it with controversial topics and feel that if someone wants to tell it like it is then have some proof (like a web address or book reference) to back it up.
The most important thing to remember is that:
“opinions are like a**holes, everyone has got one”

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M.H.

answers from Green Bay on

I think the problem here is some people believe what they believe because mother culture tells them it is true, and on here you have a broad range of opinions and experiences, which threatens their way of thinking.

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B.J.

answers from Kansas City on

He/she who is without an opinion cast the first stone. I say black, you say white, it's all relative. It would be a very boring place if everyone agreed with each other. What other way is there to get perspective on an issue if you don't have outside input. I don't judge anyone that has an opinion. Who am I to be that judge. I learn from these posts. I find it somewhat refreshing that everyone doesn't agree.

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