Possibly Moving and Not Wanting To

Updated on October 21, 2008
T.L. asks from Arnold, MO
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Well, my husband is on his kick again to move to Tampa. He applied for a job already and he told me he would wait until I get a chance to see the place in March (we plan on taking a trip there in March). Well, the kicker is, his Mom lives there and I am the one who has a MONSTER IN LAW!!! I do not want to move to be near her and my husband found out about it last week and asked me and I told him his mom thinks I am a bad mom. Well, he asked her about it Thursday while I wasn't home (I went to have a night out with my sister which helped a lot) and she flat out told my husband I am a Bad mother and hung up on him. I am afraid he will get this job and she will ruin everything I have done with my daughter and ruin my relationship with my husband. I want to live as far away from her as possible and I amy not have that option for long. I do not know what else to do except let him live and work there and I stay up here with our daughter.

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K.L.

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I have had to distance myself and draw clear boundaries with relatives, some of whom live only a few miles away from me. I have learned to do this respectfully -- that means respecting them and respecting myself. There may be many possible solutions other than the two options you suggest -- living separately from your husband or living in a war zone.

The first thing you might want to do is realize that you need to be able to tell your husband what you need and ask him what he needs. If his mother is aging and he needs to be near her to help care for her, this is no small issue for him and he should not have to choose between his duties to his mother and to his wife and child. We made sacrifices to care for my in-laws, and I had a father-in-law that presented me with many challenges. He would spout ugly racist and sexist remarks that I did not want my child to hear, etc. Nonetheless, he needed our help and it was our responsibility. So, I took the challenge and learned how to moderate situations rather than avoid them. Whenever my father-in-law would say something ugly, I would look him in the eye and say, "If I thought you meant that, that would hurt my feelings." He really didn't want to hurt anyone. He was just full of bitterness and saying those things was his way of venting. I only had to say that to him twice and he stopped saying those things in front of us.

Although it is good to build respect with everyone, it isn't always in your hands to educate others, especially not parents. The important thing is that you need to be honest with yourself about your own feelings and your husband's feelings. You need to respect yourself and you and your husband need to respect each other. If you care about each other, you can make this decision together, face challenges together, and become closer in the process. It isn't fair or helpful for either of you to be demanding. Together you can make decisions that meet everyone's needs.

Maybe you can live in Florida and still draw clear and respectful boundaries. If you and your husband take a good, loving look at the whole picture, take the time to really understand each other's feelings and needs, you will find your way through it. Life will present you with many challenges. Get in the habit of allowing challenges to bring you together rather than rip you apart.

I only saw one other post. I really don't recommend that you respond demandingly and toss him these responses as evidence against him. It might be helpful to print out ideas that you think might be helpful for both of you to consider... together! I hope you get more helpful ideas.

If you are feeling too vulnerable to your mother-in-laws lack of respect or manipulative manners, think about why. No one is the perfect mother. We all learn as we go. You have the right to learn as you go, too. If you are confident, she cannot destroy you too easily. Just as I found a way to respectfully address issues with my father-in-law, you may learn ones that work with your mother-in-law. There are many people who stick there nose where it doesn't belong. When someone does that, you can always say, "I think I understand your point. You might be right. I'll have to think about it." There are many ways, like this one, to diffuse situations with confrontational and manipulative people. You don't have to feel powerless in those situations.

Looking back over my life, there were times when it was best to distance myself because behaviors were too outrageous and people were really being hurt. But, I learned much and gained much confidence by facing challenges and learning new skills from them whenever I could.

One warning I try to give to people who challenged/gifted with both parents and children needing them: When trying to decide how to care for your parents, remember that your children are watching you and learning how to treat you when you are the grandparent. Once I learned to look at the situations in that light, it became easy to set the example of the sort of patience, care, tenderness, and understanding I would like to receive, and, to not cave in to selfish manipulations and outrageous behaviors just because they were our parents. I would not want my son to let himself be manipulated, nor would I want him to be neglectful. So, I set the best example I could with our parents. The biggest challenge we faced was not my in-laws, it was my own mother. Together we mishandled, learned, and improved how we handled it all. We are much stronger because of it.

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E.W.

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Don't let this person dictate how you live your life or how the relationship will go with your mother. Now that he has experienced first hand her true colors your should be ale to lay out some ground rules for moving there. Let him know that you are not flexible on these rules. Also, just because you live closer doesn't mean you have to see her more. If she is a toxic person stay away just as much, if not more than you do now. Any guilt trips can be countered with either polite declines or more to the point of her behavior and you not desiring to be around it. You are a grown woman and have control over your life. Do not let her get in the way. I hope after that conversation took place your husband was a bit more sympathetic to your side. Good luck and be strong. Stay with your husband because if you stay home that will be you driving each other apart and not her.

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S.C.

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T.,
I agree with Kathy! She gave you some wonderful advice. No matter where you live, there will always be challenges to face, and you must face them head on as a team with your husband. Be sure to very respectfully share your feelings and concerns with him and listen to his as well. Living in separate states should not be an option. You made a vow to be with him for better or for worse. This looks like a "worse" situation. I hope that he would be considerate of your feelings; afterall, your place of residence is a BIG decision and should be made together. If he sees it differently, it is up to you to do all you can to keep your family in tact and deal with your mother-in-law the best you can. We also have had problems with my in-laws. My MIL told my husband basically the same thing, plus MUCH more! This was 4 years ago and we just began talking to them again 3 months ago. As horrible as the things were that she said, I hated not having a relationship with them. My son was 3 yr old when we stopped going to their house and he spent 4 yrs.asking about them and he & I prayed for them every night! My husband stood up for me, but not having a relationship with them was not the right solution. I let her feelings about me weigh on me way too much at first. I had to be confident in myself and my abilities; and realize that her words were just that - WORDS. She apparently had issues of her own, and our responsibility in life is to love those around us, especially our family. I couldn't change his mind until this summer (actually I think God had just finally prepared his heart!). I was always fearful of what we were teaching our son. Children learn more from our behavior than from our words. Your daughter is still very young, but as time goes on, your little girl will observe the behaviors of you, your husband and your MIL.
Unless you and your husband agree to stand together against her attacks and love his mother together no matter what she says or does, you run the risk of allowing her to ruin your family. We live just 16 miles from my in-laws, and I am not certain that her deepest feelings have changed, but we (my hubby & I) agreed to never let her words rob us of a relationship with them or our children a relationship with their grandparents. Life is just too short! A little bit of love can go a long way. The Bible says that "Love covers a multitude of sins". But, love is not just a feeling; it's a choice! and it's an action! When we love someone who has done us wrong, we are the ones who are blessed! I know from experience. I truly hope and pray that either he changes his mind or that you can find peace with your husband's decision to move and that all will go well for your family. I don't know what your belief is about Jehovah God, but I know that He can change people and circumstances in ways that we never imagined could be! I know this from experience too! :)
May God Bless You, S.

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T.M.

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Well since you guys are married then it should be a mutual decision if you guys are going to move. Just because he is the one working doesn't mean that he gets to make the decision that you guys are moving. If he's moving just to be close to his mother and you guys don't get along - that is not fair - especially if she admitted to him that she thought you were a bad mother - what a horrible situation for him to put you in. Even if he gets the job doesn't mean that you guys have to accept it and move. Try discussing it more with him and remember - it should be a mutual decision. Good luck...

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T.T.

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I am a psychologist and I HIGHLY suggest you and your husband get involved in couples' counseling! There is too much to ask regarding your social hx-but this type of discord only gets worse without an objective helper-please consider!

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C.E.

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It pains me a great deal to have to confirm your fears. But I too have a MIL that I can't stand. And the only thing holding my marriage together, is that she's 10 hours away in Shreveport, LA. Fortunately, my husband knows she is literally a crazy, narccistic drama queen. So he does the bare minimum in talking to her and in visiting and having her up to visit us. However, he never lets me forget that she is STILL his mother. And the whole thing is magnified by the fact that his sister and father are both deceased, leaving just him and her.

I have a 7 month old daughter. He used to talk of moving closer to her, but I will tell you that there is literally NO WAY I will do that. And maybe deep down he knows it. So if I were you, I would put my foot down and hold firm. If he wants to figure out how to pay for two households in this cruddy economy, then let him. Plus how "mama's boy" will he look to his friends, abandoning his wife and child and choosing his MOTHER over YOU? I mean, unless he's clueless to how ridiculous that would look.

Unless he is literally obsessed with his mother, then if push came to shove, he WILL pick you over his mother. My husband hasn't said that, but I'm pretty sure it's true.

And of course the final layer to all of this is that he doesn't seem to be respecting your viewpoint on this whatsoever. Does he not care what you want? Or for your feelings?

I don't mean to throw gas on the fire by saying all of this. It's just that it's VERY similar to my own situation. And I'm finding the need to stand my ground more and more. And so far, it seems to be paying off.

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