7 Yr Old Night Wetting Now Turning into Day Accidents.

Updated on May 13, 2008
J.W. asks from Cumby, TX
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My middle daughter has almost always wet the bed at night, we tried the desmopressin spray from 5 1/2- 6 but because of all the side effects we took her off of it. It worked about 85 % of the time!. Now she just turned 7, still having night accidents so she is in pull-ups(family decision- she is responsible for all clean ups) We tried getting her up during the night(she never would wake up) but she would still have accidents . My main problem with the wetting is her poor bottom is always broke out no matter what brand pullup or rash type med used. And now the past 4 weeks or so she has started having accidents at school....... 1 or 2 a week. SHe says so-n-so wont let me go or I raised my hand but they didn't call on me....ect. I always follow up and get nowhere. I have stressed that she just tell someone close by and get to the bathroom when she feels the need to go. and to SPEAK UP. I'd rather her have a color change for going to the bathroom than get sent home for having an accident. Her teacher on many occasions has told her to go due to squirming in her seat. I know it is embarassing for her I want to help her but I am so lost. We dont have a lot of money to spend taking her to dr's numerous times, or for prescriptions. (Oh also she had her tonsils and adnoids taken out) Nor do we feel the alarm is going to work due to how heavy she sleeps. (bed time is 830 - 9 and get up at 6)As far as we know she has no allergies or medical problems. The only other thing I notice is her eyes are dialated a lot of the time... have no clue what does this either but dont think it's a big deal. I'm sorry for the rambeling just trying not to leave anything out. Thank you all ahead of time for your help! I hope one day I can help you!

Thank you all for the responses! we are looking into a few different things and scheduling a dr appt. A bit more info about her. She Just turned 7 in March she is very petite I think barely 48" and 40 lbs a lot shorter and thinner than all of her classmates. Mainly in a size 5 but some 4 will still work. Eats decently dosen't care for sweets. Gets excellent grades (3rd in class) no behavior issues. Had adnoids and tonsills removed 2 summers ago. If there is anything else I should be thinking about please let me know. I am making a list to take to the dr. and thank you so very much for all the help!

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M.B.

answers from Dallas on

The side effects of the desmopressin can be related to dosage, so it might be worth another try. I really sympathize with your poor daughter as I had that issue (nighttime) until 10 and still have an issue with frequent urination due to low values of ADH (anti-diuretic hormone/also called vasopressin) and I have high osmolality (indicating dehydration) and low salt. What I do that helps some is to drink water with electrolytes to decrease the osmolality and increase the sodium - at least a liter of that water a day. Note, that in healthy people that high osmolality is supposed to increase the ADH. But if you have that high and ADH low, then there's a more serious issue (mine is with my hypothalamus, which was damaged by exposure to mold toxins).

Anyways, the issue your daughter likely has is the low ADH, so she cannot physically hold onto the urine. When that number is low, the kidneys are "programmed" to get rid of water just about as fast as it gets added. The doctor told me I was likely 2 quarts low on fluids most of the time (why the electrolyte water helps and might be related to your daughters eye problem).

Another thing to consider is foods that might aggravate the bladder. Dairy is a common culprit, so you might try removing dairy from her diet. In hindsight, that likely contributed to my nighttime wetting as a child. Due to my problems with dairy that I didn't learn about until I was 33, I never gave dairy to my boys until they were older and they were both dry at nite at 3.

But, if the removing dairy recommendation doesn't work, you really need to get your daughter to the doctor - this really is a medical issue and not something that will resolve with any of these bedwetting devices, etc., particularly given it's a daytime problem too. And, most of all, please tell your daughter this isn't her fault - it's just her body isn't working quite like it should. In my experience, this problem can have a huge impact on self esteem if not handled properly.

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J.W.

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Hi J.,

I know you said you haven't got a lot of money for dr, etc. but this may be an issue to discuss with your pediatrician. Perhaps your child does have enuresis or another bladder concern.

Good luck!

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B.W.

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Does she drink alot? is she very thin? you might want to get her checked for type 1 diabetes as frequent urination is a major sign.....if you have a friend with D you can use their blood glucose machine.....also you might consider getting your kids on CHIPS so they have insurance

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S.

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J.,

It sounds like your daughter may have enuresis. Check out the website below (soiling solutions) to see if anything on it clicks with you. Also, Google the term enuresis. The thing I like about Soiling Solutions is, it takes a matter-of-fact approach to this problem, rather than making it into a medical or personality issue. We are dealing with the same issue in our family. I want to add that these children often don't feel when they wet or soil themselves...their bodies aren't working right anymore, because they've lost muscle tone in those areas due to holding it or trying to hold it too long over time. Also, use some diaper rash cream on her bottom and vaginal area to help heal and protect that skin. This is such a tough issue and raises everyone's emotions, but stay calm and don't accuse/get angry/sarcastic, etc...

http://www.soilingsolutions.com/drybed.htm

(If you would like, I'll share with you some techniques I've learned that has helped us - just write me back.)

For the dilated eyes, I would take her to an opthamologist to have her eyes checked. I just Googled the question, "what causes eyes to dilate?" and will give you just one website to look at, but it definitely seems to be something you would want a professional to look at.

http://www.mothernature.com/Library/bookshelf/Books/16/18...

Good luck with everything! You must be very busy with 3 girls and working with challenged children at school. God bless you!

http://www.mothernature.com/Library/bookshelf/Books/16/18...

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S.W.

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If your doctor is aware that there is a problem, ask the doctor to send a note with your daughter to school explaining that she has a medical condition and they must make reasonable accommodations for her. If she still has problems with the teacher not letting her go or ignoring her, take it to the principal. It is wrong for her to be treated like that. Would they treat other physically handicapped children like that?

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H.S.

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Wow i really feel for you guys, especially your little girl. You sound frustrated, and rightfully so, just don't let her know your negative feelings. I had a child in my pre-k class with this problem. She was under a great deal of stress at home, her mom was in rehab and it made her problem much worse so i would say try to make sure she isn't haveing any underlying stress issues making her problem worse. This is a medical issue, i agree with other bloggers. The teacher needs to be much more helpful and better informed. I woke this child during nap everyday to go to the bathroom. We also had a special hand signal i would give her to remind her to go to the bathroom, i didn't say it in words to avoid embarrasing her in front of other kids. Chips is a great organization if you qualify, it never hurts to try. Also testing is cheaper at the health department but a doctor must order it. The comment on childhood diabetes is true and you need to look into this because it is life threatning, and does make sense. Her eye problem would scare me to death, something is wrong and she needs help poor thing. My step daughter used to have accidents when she was constipated. And she had tubes in her ears, and was going to have her adnoids out, but luckily began to get better and didn't need it. I had a friend whos brother had childhood diabetes and had a bed wetting problem as well, he wasn't diagnosed until he was 12. I would not do any testing yourself she probably won't let you anyway. As a diabetic(not childhood) i would suggest you get her screened and follow a diabetic diet best you can until she is screened it is a healthy diet for most anyone anyway and available at mypyramid.gov, too much sugar makes you urinate more as does citric acid, i do not pretend to be anexpert on this but alarm bells sounded for me when i read this, and i feel a bit angry at this teacher, be much more agressive with her and go over her head if you have to, but most of all, reassure YOUR DAUGHTER, and get her help!!!!

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