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Find an Avon or Mary Kay rep. They'll know who's hosting an event (a Mary Kay party, etc) and they do demonstrations there. You'll both have fun!
Ok I'm looking for information about someone that can come to my home & show my daughter how to wear her makeup & maybe give suggestions on type.. I'm not a makeup person but even if I would I would still get the normal "I don't know anything card from her"... She has been wearing makeup for 3 years now.. I took her to DIllard & asked them to just show her the basics & was asking them questions regarding colors for her skin tone but all's they wanted to do is push there product ( she has to purchase her own makeup & can't afford there prices)... Then I asked a mary kay rep to come do the same & same thing all's they wanted her to do was buy there product... I understand that is what a business is but she is a 16 year old girl... Is there anyone out there that deals with make-up that would be willing to show her how to apply her make-up that she does buy & afford & make it look nice? We have a hard time finding a foundation that fits her color they all make her look orange.. She is Red hair, fair skin..... she only uses powder base, eye shadow (light colors) & mascara... The base is the biggest problem.... Any suggestions please
Thank You to all responses.. I understand it's not there job to show a teenager or they work on commission but seriously maybe thats what's wrong with society no one is willing to help another person.. after reading some of these I'm thinking foundation is something different then the little powder compacts (not sure I don't wear make- up) but she wears just the powder stuff in a compact.. not liquid stuff or anything like that.. Yes she is beautiful with out but telling a 16 year old that isn't worth the breath I learned.. Mom's no nothing at this age.. haha... I will keep trying things & maybe 1 day she will learn she doesn't need it to be beautifull.. Thank You all again..
Find an Avon or Mary Kay rep. They'll know who's hosting an event (a Mary Kay party, etc) and they do demonstrations there. You'll both have fun!
I would try looking for an Avon rep. They have a line called "Mark" and it seems to be geared towards the youth and it's not expensive. Good Luck! :)
Have you tried Ulta? Also, look for a cosmetic school that takes clients. You can take her in and have a student work with her. It would be good for both of them.
I'm a make-up artist, and would love to come if I lived closer. I would suggest bare Minerals as the base/powder (especially since it is an SPF). It's easy to find a good shade and blends in well. It sounds like she should go for the light neutral color. It's a little more expensive (about $25 plus tax), and she would need a kabuki brush for it to work it's best (but she can save $ by getting a smaller one). I usually spend a little more on the skin make-up, and then go cheap on the rest of the make-up.
I would suggest that powder and maybe a stick concealer if she needs it.
For eye colors that would work well with her hair and skin tone, I love Cover Girl's, Champange (looks great wept under the eyebrow) and then for the lowlight color, use Cover Girl's Mocha type color. Just sweep it in the crease of the eye.
http://tinyurl.com/2ekdres
I don't know if she needs eyeliner or not, but working it into her upper lashline would be nice. If her lashes are red or blonder, use a dark brown. If her lashes are a darker brown or black, use a charcoal black for the liner. A dark, shimmery forest green liner looks stunning on redheads as well.
Curl the lashes gently, then apply mascara. If she perspires or has oily skin (I'm guessing she doesn't) then a waterproof would work well. Let her decide if she like the look of long and lean lashes, or thicker lashes, and she can pick her lash formula on that.
I personally prefer... both! So, I get a good mascara that offers lengthen/thickening.
The Maybelline Great Lash mascara is great... you know the one with the pink bottle and green wand/lid. Also, another one I've been using lately is the Loreal Telescopic Explosion mascara. It is in a red tube, and the mascara part is shaped like a little ball.
http://www.oopshi.com/78/which-mascara-is-the-best.html
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7pkkPKd3tJ0/SwzelY_aEHI/AAAAAAA...
For blush, I think a peachy pink would look great on her... just apply it where she needs it. If she has a wider face or thinner, or her face shape will depend on that. This link explains how:
http://www.beautysensation.com/howtoblush.htm
For lipstick, I prefer peachy-pink to nude colors for fair skinned redheads. And every now and then, a deep rosey pink gloss looks amazing as well.
My favorite nude lipstick has a bit of shine so it doesn't dry the lips out like a matte will (though I prefer the look of matte).
L'oreal Golden Splendor #805 (in a golden tube)
http://www.drugstore.com/qxp179774_333181_sespider/loreal...
Hope all of that helps! If you want to go somewhere, take her to an Ulta or Sephora. They don't push certain brands, they have expensive lines, and drugstore lines too, so you can set the budget. (Sephora can get a little more expensive).
I wrote a blogpost about make-up... that should help her, and I've linked to several women who do lots of tutorials as well.
Also, the eyebrow shaping is THE most important part, so I've linked to that too.
http://littlelovables.blogspot.com/2009/09/smokin-hot-eye...
http://littlelovables.blogspot.com/2010/05/natural-pastel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOFzaLCcZ2c
And also, if she likes books, go to half price books and get the make-up book by Kevyn Aucoin. It will teach her all the basics, and give tons of great advice and ideas! I have the "Making Faces" book and it's my favorite, but the other two are good as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Kevyn-Aucoin/e/B000APUXHA/ref=sr_nt...
if she wants to try different colors and such for fun, she can order really cheap stuff from elf, (or get really inexpensive stuff at the drug store, or even what I do, shop the clearance section). just remember, the cheaper brands have less pigment so won't last as long during the day as something expensive and really pigment, such as MAC.
http://www.eyeslipsface.com/?AID=10589901&PID=3368393...
It sounds like she has beautiful skin naturally, and doesn't even need foundation. When it comes to make-up, less IS more. I try to tell my teenager that, and yeah... she doesn't hear it. I trust that she'll figure it out on her own someday.
That said, you can go to a Lancome counter in a dept. store for a makeover. There is pressure to buy their products, but it isn't mandatory. Take what you learn there to the drugstore and find comparable products. I've read that Lancome and L'Oreal are actually the same company -- L'Oreal is the company's less expensive drugstore brand, so the products should be similar.
I am a big fan of DHC - you can go their website and order a catalog with some free samples. They have products for all skin types and ages. They have some make-up but their emphasis is on products for cleansing, toning, moisturizing, etc. They can be pricey but for me it's totally worth it. I am very fair too and personally don't like the feeling of foundation on my face. DHC has a product called Velvet Skin Coat that is meant to go on before applying foundation but I've found that just wearing it alone really helps to even my skin out without adding any color or shade, gives it a nice glow, and it's looks totally natural.
Find a salon that has a make up artist, or can recommend someone. Call them and see if they will show your daughter. I know the make up artist I had for my wedding did. That was her next appointment after me. =) Good Luck!
I love this question. In my day there was Plaza 3 academy, and Estee Lauder Red Door Salon, and classes in the library after school., there was even a color lady who charted you with fabrics makeup and textures (i still lhave mine)..nowadays, nothing.
So, last spring i took my 15 yr old to Nordstroms. They have an annual makeup fair. All the different brands come out and you make appointments with the brands you want in this all day event.
I made 5 appointments (in advance, it is a zoo) with these visiting artists, 5 different ways were shown how to apply and colors of makeup. I had her wash her face between each appointment. (no one else did it like this, but i figured she could learn something from each and i really didn't know where else to turn)
One thing that was strange was that even "powder" was not recommended, instead there are these blotters (like a baby wipe) that you use to "blot" your face when it feels shiney or oily. There are also certain types of foundations that are for younger skin and you do see how they choose the color on the inside of the arm...
the most important thing, as they all did it, was to moisturize the face before putting anything on. it makes it all smooth, not streaky.
The powder base we opted for had spf 15 (many do now) which is why she contines to wear it even though she was told not to. She's an athlete and doesn't want a slippery face.
Good luck. If you find a class, let me know!! I'd even love a class that teaches them proper posture.
Yes, I am a Mary Kay consultant and would be happy to help your daughter without "pushing" the product... I also teach skin care and basic make-up application at my daughter's school as an after school class so I am used to not selling the product in that aspect! Obviously there is no charge... I'm just happy to let your daughter learn what colors look best on her... I would just need to know your boundaries are regarding what she is allowed to wear. If you'd like to talk to me feel free to email me at ____@____.com.
At 16, I'm wondering why she is even worried about wearing foundation.
It kills me to see young girls with it caked on when they don't even need it.
She might be better off using some spot concealer and translucent powder as opposed to full on foundation.
She's in high school and I'm assuming she has P.E. and is possibly involved in sports. I would think the less she applies the better unless it's for special occasions.
Cover Girl has translucent shine free powders in compacts that are affordable if she just needs a touch up here and there.
My daughter went through a phase of thinking she would die if she didn't have makeup on for school every day and finally she just said, "screw it".
It was too much trouble. She has perfect fair skin and long eyelashes. She still wore make up for proms and things, but day to day, she quit messing with it other than curling her eyelashes and wearing some lip gloss.
It's a personal thing though.
I hope you get some great responses.
If she is fair, the oranging is due to the base being too dark. She needs the lightest shade available. Loreal has a mineral with brush loose powder. Goes on like a powder but blends beautifully.
Make up is such a hard thing. Sometimes wearing too much makes things worse. If she has pretty skin, just a little blush, lip gloss, and mascara. Accentuate her natural beauty.
A department store makeup counter person makes commissions on what they sell, they aren't there to teach a teenager about makeup that they're not going to buy, same with the Mary Kay rep. They make their living selling their products, not giving general makeup advice/ What I'd suggest is going to one of the stores that custom blends foundation to your own skin type/color, if she really must wear foundation. This is a costly option, and she may decide she doesn't need foundation that badly, but it's probably what's going to get you the best result and since she's buying the product, they'll likely show her how to best apply it. Good luck!
I wish you lived closer, I have the perfect person!
First good for you for wanting her to learn correctly for her skin tone and type! And your experiences were the exact reason why I did not take her to the mall or call a MK consultant. *No offense to any Mary Kay Consultant out there. I actually used the products myself for years until my chemistry changed.
I actually found a local (Kansas City area) who developed a make up line and is a make up artist. For my daughter's 15th birthday I had her come and show the girls how to apply make up tastefully. While she does have a product line she did NOT push it but just had fun talking to the girls and teaching them.
Good Luck
I would be willing to help and not push any product...just give her knowledge and confidence in taking care of her skin now that she is wearing make-up and applying it correctly so it looks natural.
Thanks for reaching out!
D.
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Anyone who is a rep for any cosmetics company is going to push their product. The only reason they do free makeovers or makeup lessons is to sell. Do you have a friend or does she whose makeup always looks good? Maybe she would take advice from that person. My mother and I always had very different makeup styles, but she did get me started. After that though, it was a lot of trial and error with different looks that I did myself and from looking at magazines. In order to get the right tone, you may want to splurge and hit a Clinique or Aveda counter and get her the exact right tone of base. Foundation usually lasts forever, and you only have to buy that -not anything else even though they may want you to. My mother did teach me that it's usually good to pay for a decent foundation and then you can find good eye shadow, blush, lipstick, etc. at a drugstore or Target. I go back and forth on what I like as an adult, but I think maybe a splurge on foundation since she's hard to match is in order.
I would take her to Dillards at paradise Valley mall. take her to Janet. She is the manager at the Clinique counter there and is really wonderful with kids. if you would like to call and make an appointment with her that would be best. I work for Clinique also and worked with her for 15 years at that counter but Im not there any more. She's wonderful and the prices are right, I have my 15 year old using Clinique its wonderful plus they have a gift starting soon so Janet could help you figure out what to buy so you can get a gift. ###-###-#### ask for Clinique and then ask for janet.
Best of luck, I will tell Janet you might be calling:)
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I still remember my mom did a Mary Kay party for me and my girlfriends in high school with their mothers. It was a mother daughter bonding experience. The teenagers learned how to put on make up and the moms talked. It's a great way to get to know your daughters friends and their mothers.
why foundation? A light natural look is awesome!
Try Bare Esentiual it's great for fair skined people and won't clog. Try the light/fair. I love it at 43 my face was still breaking out once I started using it NO : ) more acne. It's pricey but cheaper than a dermotologist.
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Try Bare Esentiual it's great for fair skined people and won't clog. Try the light/fair. I love it at 43 my face was still breaking out once I started using it NO : ) more acne. It's pricey but cheaper than a dermotologist.
I also love the Bare Minerals line (powder foundation & finishing powder). Fair Matte is the lightest color: http://bareescentuals.com/Large%20Matte%20Spf%2015%20Foun...
It does last a long time. Mineral Veil in translucent is a great finishing powder: http://bareescentuals.com/Bare%20Escentuals%20Mineral%20V...
If those items are a bit too pricey, try Almay Pure Blends foundation. I just recently started using it, had to give up the BareMineral powders because I'm getting some fine hair on my face now (oh joy) and the powder accentuates it more. So I logged on to www.cosmeticsdatabase to find a liquid foundation that was rated low on toxicity and the Almay Pure Blends line is the lowest rated on the toxicity scale (3 out of 10, 10 being worst) for the price point. The lighest color is "Ivory". The foundation is very lightweight and I really like it.
With her coloring, she'll want to stick w/ a base color that is more on the pinkish side than the yellow side.
Sephora is a good store with the sales people not pushing a particular brand. They have makeovers, etc.
If you don't have a Sephora or don't want to do that.....
Does your daughter have a friend who uses makeup and does a nice job? My daughter is often asked by others how to do things, etc with makeup because she does a great job with minimal makeup and looking like a model, she is a model.
GOod luck.
It sounds like her base is too dark. Try a lighter shade. The girls at the cosmetic counters at Dillards and anywhere else have numbers to turn in. If she can just purchase one thing, they may be willing to put her make up on for her. A make up artist who comes to your house is going to want at least a couple hundred dollars. She can watch the girls at Dillards and probably learn more then having them apply it to her.
Also TLC's "What Not to Wear" has a make up artist who shows exactly how she applies the make up. She can try to YouTube make up application, I am sure there is something there, or she can get a book. Otherwise, I am sure you will have to pay.
There is a book by Bobbi Brown that my sister-in-law just bought for my niece. It goes over caring for your skin and makeup application. It may not solve all your problems but would probably be a great reference. Not sure which one she bought, she wrote a few, but you could probably go to Barnes and Noble and find one you think would suit your daughter best. It was a great book and my niece loved it.
Hi,
I have not read all the responses, but I took my 15 year old sister to The Body Shop (located in a lot of malls). She was wearing the wrong foundation and they really worked with her to find the correct color. There was no sales pressure. You could just call up and ask if they are able to do a free makeover. I wear their products and enjoy them, and she ultimately started wearing them too.
Hope this help!
I also have a hard time finding a base ( powder) that works for me. They made me look orange or like a ghost. So, I use the MAC brand from Dillards. Yes, it is a little pricy, but they can try several colors on you to find the best match, Really, it's cheaper than buying 5 different cheaper ones from Target and not wearing them because the color is wrong. I used to use cheaper ones, but then they would rename the color I liked and I'd have to start all over trying to find a color and wasting lots of money in hte process. Have her just get the base powder from a pricier place and get the rest from Walmart/Target.